<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/2.2" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Differentiating Between Web Craft and Web Design</title>
	<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/</link>
	<description>Your basic design blog.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2</generator>

	<item>
		<title>By: fejlt</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-253453</link>
		<author>fejlt</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-253453</guid>
		<description>Great post m8, looking forward to more posts like this, so i bookmarked you ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post m8, looking forward to more posts like this, so i bookmarked you <img src='http://www.somerandomdude.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: blojer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Second Life y el cómic</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-57452</link>
		<author>blojer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Second Life y el cómic</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 15:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-57452</guid>
		<description>[...] Otros enlaces: Surviving the singularity, Differentiating Between Web Craft and Web Design, A.I. vs. Biological Studies to Understand Minds, Blog de Tino Pertierra.    Posted by Sergio Filed in Sociedad, Recortes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Otros enlaces: Surviving the singularity, Differentiating Between Web Craft and Web Design, A.I. vs. Biological Studies to Understand Minds, Blog de Tino Pertierra.    Posted by Sergio Filed in Sociedad, Recortes [&#8230;]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lautreamont</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-4238</link>
		<author>Lautreamont</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-4238</guid>
		<description>It's not that easy to undertand the difference between craft and design. I don't mean in your article but getting the concept. Great job though, man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that easy to undertand the difference between craft and design. I don&#8217;t mean in your article but getting the concept. Great job though, man!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: I ♥ Black. I ♥ White. &#187; SOME RANDOM DUDE</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-830</link>
		<author>I ♥ Black. I ♥ White. &#187; SOME RANDOM DUDE</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 06:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-830</guid>
		<description>[...] I ♥ Black. I ♥ White.  Tags:&#160;black and white film fuji Nikkormat Nikon Photography rollei rolleicordMy photographic background is not much to be proud of. In one of my graphic design courses, the professor let us know that a large portion of our work would involve photography. I did not have a camera at that time and was lucky enough to be given a Nikkormat FT2 shortly afterward as a birthday present. I quickly jumped right into manual photography with no educated background. Nonetheless, I fumbled around with the camera enough to where I could take decent shots for the projects they were intended for. All work with my camera was a means to an end - as long as the shots turned out to my needs, I was happy. As you may guess, I many times would have to go through hundreds of shots and boat-loads of money (for a starving student) to get the results I desired. It never dawned on me to take a different approach with my photography as I was too ignorant to know better and too strung out on caffeine to think rationally.  Fast-forward four years later. My camera is never used for any of my professional projects. There are no deadlines, no specific goals to achieve - my outlook on photography has changed dramatically. My wife and I go out together to take photos at least once every two weeks and we must be developing around three roles of film a week. To many, that many not sound like anything, but considering our busy schedules, it amazes me. Since photography has become part hobby/part passion, I have much more time and flexibility to shoot what I want and how I want. To be more specific, I want to take better shots. I have noticed that my fumbling around has produced some fairly interesting, but relatively poorly executed photographs. Just as there is a difference in web design and web craft, I had never improved the craftsmanship of my photos - keeping all of my work under a glass ceiling. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I ♥ Black. I ♥ White.  Tags:&nbsp;black and white film fuji Nikkormat Nikon Photography rollei rolleicordMy photographic background is not much to be proud of. In one of my graphic design courses, the professor let us know that a large portion of our work would involve photography. I did not have a camera at that time and was lucky enough to be given a Nikkormat FT2 shortly afterward as a birthday present. I quickly jumped right into manual photography with no educated background. Nonetheless, I fumbled around with the camera enough to where I could take decent shots for the projects they were intended for. All work with my camera was a means to an end - as long as the shots turned out to my needs, I was happy. As you may guess, I many times would have to go through hundreds of shots and boat-loads of money (for a starving student) to get the results I desired. It never dawned on me to take a different approach with my photography as I was too ignorant to know better and too strung out on caffeine to think rationally.  Fast-forward four years later. My camera is never used for any of my professional projects. There are no deadlines, no specific goals to achieve - my outlook on photography has changed dramatically. My wife and I go out together to take photos at least once every two weeks and we must be developing around three roles of film a week. To many, that many not sound like anything, but considering our busy schedules, it amazes me. Since photography has become part hobby/part passion, I have much more time and flexibility to shoot what I want and how I want. To be more specific, I want to take better shots. I have noticed that my fumbling around has produced some fairly interesting, but relatively poorly executed photographs. Just as there is a difference in web design and web craft, I had never improved the craftsmanship of my photos - keeping all of my work under a glass ceiling. [&#8230;]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yousuf Haq</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-814</link>
		<author>Yousuf Haq</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 22:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-814</guid>
		<description>BTW. I found Michael A's comments extremely pertinent. We're all in a in a fuzzy art/social movement called the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW. I found Michael A&#8217;s comments extremely pertinent. We&#8217;re all in a in a fuzzy art/social movement called the web.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yousuf Haq</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-813</link>
		<author>Yousuf Haq</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 22:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-813</guid>
		<description>I agree with you Kellie. Eating and living are of course important. I'm an idealist and I just like to stur the pot. SO. i take back " screw it if u get fired." and replace it with " Gently unnerve your boss with out undermining your means of living." :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Kellie. Eating and living are of course important. I&#8217;m an idealist and I just like to stur the pot. SO. i take back &#8221; screw it if u get fired.&#8221; and replace it with &#8221; Gently unnerve your boss with out undermining your means of living.&#8221; <img src='http://www.somerandomdude.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DRAG-ing Your Design Down - How To Style Yourself To Anonymity &#187; SOME RANDOM DUDE</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-753</link>
		<author>DRAG-ing Your Design Down - How To Style Yourself To Anonymity &#187; SOME RANDOM DUDE</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 17:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-753</guid>
		<description>[...] Much of this psychological phenomenon seems to also be technically driven. A new CSS feature comes out that allows something visually new to be done. For example, a new CSS technique to add rounded corners to DIVs. If it is able to be done, we have to do it. This, at least in some part, stems from the lack of creative control we have in designing websites. We are like sexually repressed teenagers. Our hormones lash out with reckless abandon whenever they get the chance. Do those rounded colors/drop-shadows/gradients have a significance or are they strictly for style? Who cares - we can finally do it. That is all the excuse we need. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Much of this psychological phenomenon seems to also be technically driven. A new CSS feature comes out that allows something visually new to be done. For example, a new CSS technique to add rounded corners to DIVs. If it is able to be done, we have to do it. This, at least in some part, stems from the lack of creative control we have in designing websites. We are like sexually repressed teenagers. Our hormones lash out with reckless abandon whenever they get the chance. Do those rounded colors/drop-shadows/gradients have a significance or are they strictly for style? Who cares - we can finally do it. That is all the excuse we need. [&#8230;]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Semi-Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Differentiating Between Web Craft and Web Design</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-370</link>
		<author>Semi-Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Differentiating Between Web Craft and Web Design</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-370</guid>
		<description>[...] Differentiating Between Web Craft and Web Design [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Differentiating Between Web Craft and Web Design [&#8230;]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kellie Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-358</link>
		<author>Kellie Kat</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 04:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-358</guid>
		<description>"Tell your employer about your ideas and how they are better on a certain project. Screw it if you get fired. Your probably better off working for someone else."   ~yousuf

i love that statement. yousuf, your thoughts always amaze me! :-P
during my adventures as a student (moonlighting as a freelance designer), i encountered situations where i had come close to doing that. however, i always had to step back and think about my rent, food, and living expenses. 

in an ideal world, i would love to tell an ignorant client to 'shove it' and quit. sadly, that's not a possibility for many of the poor misunderstood designers out there in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tell your employer about your ideas and how they are better on a certain project. Screw it if you get fired. Your probably better off working for someone else.&#8221;   ~yousuf</p>
<p>i love that statement. yousuf, your thoughts always amaze me! <img src='http://www.somerandomdude.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
during my adventures as a student (moonlighting as a freelance designer), i encountered situations where i had come close to doing that. however, i always had to step back and think about my rent, food, and living expenses. </p>
<p>in an ideal world, i would love to tell an ignorant client to &#8217;shove it&#8217; and quit. sadly, that&#8217;s not a possibility for many of the poor misunderstood designers out there in the world.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kellie Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-357</link>
		<author>Kellie Kat</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 04:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.somerandomdude.net/blog/design/differentiating-web-design-web-craft/#comment-357</guid>
		<description>as always, an excellent article. thank you for contributing bold ideas to the design/web community. :-)

regarding this topic, there isn't much i can say without reiterating key points from your article.

my philosophy behind successful web design is based on one word: BALANCE. many web programmers are immersed in the technical, functional aspects of web design and lack the concept of aesthetics. and vise versa for graphic designers. the truly successful websites seem to come from individuals like you, PJ, who have a strong understanding of programming and design and know how to make two very different "creatures" live and work symbiotically.

starting a revolution and changing educational programs to balance design and programming would be ideal but difficult to achieve immediately. in the meantime, designers and programmers need to realize that their cooperation with one another is essential for the creation of successful websites. extensive communication, respect for each others craft, and patience with one another is an excellent starting point to a beautiful relationship as well as a beautiful website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as always, an excellent article. thank you for contributing bold ideas to the design/web community. <img src='http://www.somerandomdude.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>regarding this topic, there isn&#8217;t much i can say without reiterating key points from your article.</p>
<p>my philosophy behind successful web design is based on one word: BALANCE. many web programmers are immersed in the technical, functional aspects of web design and lack the concept of aesthetics. and vise versa for graphic designers. the truly successful websites seem to come from individuals like you, PJ, who have a strong understanding of programming and design and know how to make two very different &#8220;creatures&#8221; live and work symbiotically.</p>
<p>starting a revolution and changing educational programs to balance design and programming would be ideal but difficult to achieve immediately. in the meantime, designers and programmers need to realize that their cooperation with one another is essential for the creation of successful websites. extensive communication, respect for each others craft, and patience with one another is an excellent starting point to a beautiful relationship as well as a beautiful website.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
